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Munky not Trukk by Gozer-The-Destroyor Munky not Trukk by Gozer-The-Destroyor
Optimus Primal was a difficult one to nail down. I really, really didn't want to base (what I imagined to be) his transformation sequence too closely on his TV show counterpart. Literally, the guy just jumped in place and he's transformed. I mean, who's lame idea was it to make him a primate?

Of course, considering that their first choice was a bat, I don't think I should really complain. I was going to explore the idea of making him into a lion or a mammoth, but that would either give the crew three felines or a needlessly large robot mode with only a trunk to work with in beast mode.

So I explored different possibilities (a four-armed Primal was one of the last ideas I remember coming up with, though none of them were actually realized on paper), but in the end, I gave in and gave him a transformation sequence that's pretty identical to the TV show version. I'm dissapointed because one of the rules I've set for myself is that none of their beast-mode limbs can become the limbs of their robot mode. I broke that rule when I turned all four of Rhinox's rhino legs into his robot mode legs (effectively turning him into a squat, robotic centaur), but Primal just rubs salt into the wound.

Transformation rundown:
His head splits apart at key points and forms the center of his chest as his Gorilla chest widens and his torso broadens. His arms extend a bit but remain relatively unchanged. He stands up and his legs extend out (I left the "shell" pieces that fit together pretty tightly locked in, they separate and extend as the legs extend). He stands up on two legs and those two pieces that are folded against the back of his heels twist around to the sides of the feet to make them wider.


Additional Weaponry/cool shit:
His "Prime Jets," the jet pack he had in the show, are hidden in the upper torso, under the shoulder blades. He can also fire missiles from his wrist cuffs.

Background:
On Cybertron, Before Primal was the leader of the ragtag squadron of Maximals, he was a starship captain dubbed "Optimus Minor." His crew members later encouraged him to change it under the circumstances that he went from a Cybertronian vehicle to friggin' King Kong. While "Optimus Minor" is still his actual name ("Minor" is considered a Cybertronian military rank), he does prefer to be called Optimus Primal, or more often than not, just Optimus. By nature, Optimus is a logical and reasonable leader who would rather not jump into a confrontation if he can find a way to avoid it, and who would never give an order to his fellow crew members that he wouldn't be willing to do himself. However, being at war changes the rules; many times, confrontations become unavoidable and the duties you must ask of your men become more severe. Primal is often in conflict with himself, but never fails to give the Maximals the best he can offer as a leader.

(Note: This is an altered storyline for the faux-cinematic realization of this character and is not to be taken literally as this character's official backstory. They are intended to be used as the *fake* movie versions of these characters, to better define them for myself any anyone else willing to contribute to this project, hint hint.)
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TheLordandtheRing Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Coulde you made a Mammoth Primal at some point? I am making a CGI Transformers movie based on that Primal. Will you? Just curious. :)

And where is the bos monkey in Robot mode? Will you ever do that?
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Guyverman Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2011
Does Gary Chalk still voice him?
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011
Naturally.
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DragonDino Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009
They made him an ape to make him more "human".
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2009
So I gathered.
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Michalanthropos Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2009
I'd love to see your versions of their robot modes. Are you going to draw them anytime soon (or at all:P)?
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2009
I thought I uploaded Optimus Primal's robot mode. I'll try and remember tonight.
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TeiOuja Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Nice. I'd like to see what depth charge, rampage, and transmutate look like in movie style.
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PsychoDemonFox Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Awesome design. I like it. ^^
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Tenshiyasha Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2009
Very clean, very coherent, and I hear you on the transformation debacles.
Dinobot's pretty much made up his mind about how he transforms...
The description in regards to his character are pretty dead-on as well. the 'minor' thing works too. There is another character who goes by "Optimus Minor", but he only appears in the comics.

I'd like to see more of these(or maybe make one, now that i think on it). Was this in any way based on his Beast Machines look? Or is this what we see under the 'mask' of the Gollia fur of his first beast mode? Or is this a completely new look, since as there are no sentients on the mystery planet, disguises are not really required?

Also, thanks for hiding the prime jets. I'm sure big bot will be glad about not being shot down after 5 seconds of flight anymore.
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2009
Dinobot's pretty much made up his mind about how he transforms...

Yeah, some of these are really stubborn. I'm going to be redesigning certain parts of Dinobot's beast mode, by the way. I hate the wiry appearance of the legs/arms.

The description in regards to his character are pretty dead-on as well. the 'minor' thing works too. There is another character who goes by "Optimus Minor", but he only appears in the comics.

Oh, I know about Optimus Minor. He was a toy, too; an actual monkey. I used the name for this character as an homage.

I want to be very true to these characters, and not alter much. I grew up watching this show.


I'd like to see more of these(or maybe make one, now that i think on it). Was this in any way based on his Beast Machines look?

You know, now that I think about it, I really did channel Beast Machines Primal to come up with this design. I love how that one came out.

Or is this what we see under the 'mask' of the Gorilla fur of his first beast mode? Or is this a completely new look, since as there are no sentients on the mystery planet, disguises are not really required?

The thing to remember is that these are not transmetals. In the movie-verse, they start off as totally mechanical entities (because they were mechanical to begin with) and project a holographic image of a realistic beast mode over them while trying to blend in. This also produces a field around them that protects them from energon radiation and masks any of their energy signatures from being detected by the opposing faction.

Over time, they begin to discover that, because their systems scanned organic forms, their bodies are now trying to convert into an organic state, which (because of the complicated nature of their transforming anatomies) is a state that they cannot exist in. I imagine it'd be very painful. They must find a way to stop the transformation from inorganic to organic before they all shut down. That's one of the major plot points.

Kind of goes against Beast Machines, but whatever.

Also, thanks for hiding the prime jets. I'm sure big bot will be glad about not being shot down after 5 seconds of flight anymore.

He's still got his jets, he just can't use them in beast mode.

Thank you so much for the well-thought out comment!
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Tenshiyasha Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2009
Just a bit of a thought.

would it be neat if Dinobot's new beast mode had feathers? as per the new discoveries? If nothing else, he'd have a more interesting shillouette(and more interesting comments from Rattrap).
Also, I think it'd be a good idea to take a page from his new 'Universe' figure, and turn his 'rotate blade' into one-half rocket launcher, since Chopperface was alway kind of gimped when it came to ranged fighting.
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2009
"would it be neat if Dinobot's new beast mode had feathers? as per the new discoveries? If nothing else, he'd have a more interesting shillouette(and more interesting comments from Rattrap)."

I could hug you, you know that?

I've been gunning for a feathery Dinobot for years, now. The one I designed actually has feathers in the hologram he projects. Blue-black with white stripes. His tail weapon is brimmed with hovering blades that resemble a fan of tail feathers all the way down his tail, which act as both a saw-blade edge for his sword and as ninja stars.

In terms of range fighting, I think the throwing stars would do it.
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Tenshiyasha Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2009
Dinobot could be the resident Metallikato master? It fits. He certainly is disciplined, says the word "Fool" enough, and kicked Megatron's arse hand to hand.

Oddly enough, Cheetor's Universe figure was given the throwing stars.
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2009
I always thought he at least practiced Metallikato... at least after I learned what Metallikato was.

Yeah, Cheetor does not seem the type to know how to use throwing stars, so I gave him some ol' GUN WHIP.
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Tenshiyasha Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2009
Y'know, transformers weaponry was never the same after the late 90's.
and by Beast Mchines, it was almost absurd.
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Gozer-The-Destroyor Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2009
I think you mean, TOTALLY WICKED TRIPPY! Blackarachnia shot ELECTRIC LASER WEBS through the GROUND and Nightscreem had KILLER DENTURES and the POWER TO SCREAM!

Where did I go just now?
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